Listen to the full interview via the Off The Ball Football Show podcast.

Scott Murray and Jonathan Wilson will be at Dublin's Sugar Club this Sunday to talk about their new book The Anatomy of Liverpool which explains how the Reds acquired their esteemed status by using 10 key matches as marker points.

Tonight, we got a sneak preview from Murray, who is a regular contributor to The Guardian.

Although many regard Bill Shankly as the man who created the Liverpool we know today, Murray emphasized the fact that the Merseyside club had had great managers even before then.

"There was Tom Watson in the late 19th Cenutry and early 1900s. There was also George Kay. If he hadn't won the title with Liverpool in 1946/47, it's questionable that Shankly would have even had a giant to revive when he turned up," said Murray who also felt that Liverpool bouncing back from a  5 - 0 loss in a 1899 title decider against Aston Villa, "hardened Liverpool as a club...to the present day."

He explained that some of the club's most famous victories can be seen in a different light in the cold light of modern day, including Istanbul 2005.

"The 2005 European final isn't quite what you think it is when you watch it again, even though the big set-piece moments have been ingrained in the general consciousness.

"What's often forgotten about that is that two minutes before Gerrard scored Liverpool's first goal, Sami Hyppia should have been sent off. Kaka was about to break through and [Hyppia] stepped across very cynically. I think if the score was 0 - 0 or 1 - 0, the referee probably would have given a red card. As it was, it was 3 - 0 to Milan and they were on the front foot. Hyppia was pleading to the referee and Kaka did not make a song and dance about it at all. It's forgotten about but it was the pivotal moment because Liverpool went down the other end of the pitch after Dudek made a save from the Shevchenko free-kick and scored."